so i suggested did he go to the fbi. the fbi apparently was very skeptical about him, as well, having the same problems with cast of characters. he called me back two or three times, and he -- and i told him to go to the local police, the roseville police department. which he did. and i have to hand it to chief berlin and the roseville police department for pursuing this lead. they questioned him intensively. they brought the ground radar equipment. they detected something down there. i don't know if it's a body or a root of a tree. something's down there. and they are doing the good police work and they're going to find out what it is. >> explain to me who this tipster is. what kind of informant is this? where does he fit in the puzzle? and why is he coming forward now? >> he is not a mob guy. and he's not connected, per se. he is a gambler, who had a -- had a affiliation, a connection with a bookmaker in detroit, who was working with tony jaccoloni. what was interesting to me was that tony was one of the two people tha